The Man of Sin, the Powerful Delusion & Trinity Doctrine
Peter Porter
Hello everyone, 2 Thess 2:2-4 Paul explains how Jesus return will not return until the man of sin the man of lawlessness the antichrist appears. That has to happen first and that's basically what he's getting at in this chapter. I just want to read this for you here and then we got something very interesting to talk about. Now brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to him, we ask you not to be shaken in mind or troubled either by spirit or by word or letter, as if from us as though the day of Christ has come. Let no one deceive you by any means: for that day will not come unless the falling away (the caught away) comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition. Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that He is God.
Now in the trinitarian mindset, the trinitarian who reads this is probably most often going to think that he couldn't possibly fall for this. Paul later in this chapter talks about, you know, how God sends a powerful delusion. In verse 2 Thess 2:11 God will send them a strong delusion that they should believe the lie this lie. The trinitarian say “O I'm never gonna believe this lie because I know that only Jesus is God” so I want to show you here in this video (below) they already believe this lie. And I'm gonna show you how that's true. Lets go back to the garden when Eve is being tempted by Satan to eat the fruit, and he basically tells her, “oh you won't really die” Now think about the question that is asked of trinitarians when Jesus died. If this is God the Son and God cannot die, then what's going on here who did die? And you know the usual response is “well you know this Jesus according to the one nature and Jesus according to the other nature”
Jesus according to his human nature died, Jesus according to His divine nature did not die and so on and so on and so on you got to keep that one in mind. When you're thinking about this, we'll come back to that in a second, what do almost all trinitarians believe? They believe that you're an immortal soul or spirit, you're an immortal soul or spirit that cannot die, that's a basic idea among trinitarians you're immortal. When you ask well wait a minute am I mortal or immortal? well it's kind of like well I'm a mortal and I'm this immortal spirit with a mortal body. And at that point you are construed as you know your humanity is construed as this immortal spirit housed in a mortal body and when you die it's like you remain alive because you're immortal. That's what it means to be immortal if you don't die your body dies so you discard this body you leave it behind. So you're already immortal, now the funny thing about this is and you really got to think about this too is, that they kind of forget this when they're reading those passages about how Jesus says your condition changes when you become a Christian.
They talk about this as if this is true of all of humans, all humans are this immortal spirit that cannot die. But Jesus talks about you know your condition changes, and you have immortal life only when you are a Christian. You have this eternal life in you, but the trinitarians are talking about this as if this is true of all humans, keep that in mind as well. So you have this sort of idea in their minds. Now let's go back to Jesus on the cross, and you'll know the standard response from trinitarians when the question is asked, well then who died if God the Son cannot die and be dead who died? And you get this response, well you see Jesus has these two natures, one immortal and one mortal Jesus according to his divine nature. Immortal cannot die, Jesus according to his human nature, mortal can die. And so they say, you see that's what happened there, but then notice what they do next, they want to talk about what happens when you die.
When any human dies, you see when you die there's a separation of the spirit from the body, now notice carefully what they're saying. They're saying that you're just like their Jesus the God the Son. You're partly immortal, you're this immortal spirit, you're immortal and cannot die but you discard this mortal body when you die you separate from it. And so if you really think about it they're saying that you're the same as God the Son, you see angels are divine beings, God's a divine being, God is spirit angels are spirit and we are spirit. That's what they're thinking even though the Bible says dust you are that never says spirit. We are it says dust, you are, they want to think of themselves as divine spirit but they're careful to never say those words but that's what they're thinking. That thinking is betrayed when they're talking about, well you see Jesus had these two natures and this one died and this one didn't and then they go on to explain how any human when dies this is what happens. They're betraying themselves, they're showing that they believe in some way that because spirit is a divine thing, that you're immortal divinity. And that's who you are, see what I'm saying here, and so they're already believing what Paul is talking about at second 2 Thess 2.
They're already making themselves immortal, divinity immortal, divinity that cannot die because that's what they believe God is spirit God is immortal, angels are spirit angels are immortal, I am spirit. I the spirit and the mortal, and when I die I discard this mortal body just like Jesus did on the cross. And you see how this turns out to be 2 Thess 2:4 He sits as divinity in the temple of divinity, showing himself that he is divinity. I am immortal spirit I cannot die, I am an immortal soul at the point of death I remain alive, because that's what immortal means. You say you're an immortal soul, that means a soul that doesn't die. And so you think in your mind if you're a trinitarian that you're this immortal spirit basically you're saying a divine being, I am a divine being. I am a divine spirit like the angels who are spirit, the angels are spirit the angels are divine the angels cannot die, God is spirit, God is immortal God cannot die. I am spirit I am immortal, I cannot die it's the same thing isn't it. Trinitarians are already believing this, and it's clearly betrayed, when you ask who was dead on the cross? If God cannot be die, and then they start to talk about what happens when any human body dies, every human is impossible to die, because every human is an immortal soul and spirit. Think about that lie. It is really good when you study 2 Thess and then you'll realize why this is a powerful delusion and people are deluded into already believing this type of thing. Be careful that you don't see the man of sin as God. God bless you.
Hello everyone, 2 Thess 2:2-4 Paul explains how Jesus return will not return until the man of sin the man of lawlessness the antichrist appears. That has to happen first and that's basically what he's getting at in this chapter. I just want to read this for you here and then we got something very interesting to talk about. Now brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to him, we ask you not to be shaken in mind or troubled either by spirit or by word or letter, as if from us as though the day of Christ has come. Let no one deceive you by any means: for that day will not come unless the falling away (the caught away) comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition. Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that He is God.
Now in the trinitarian mindset, the trinitarian who reads this is probably most often going to think that he couldn't possibly fall for this. Paul later in this chapter talks about, you know, how God sends a powerful delusion. In verse 2 Thess 2:11 God will send them a strong delusion that they should believe the lie this lie. The trinitarian say “O I'm never gonna believe this lie because I know that only Jesus is God” so I want to show you here in this video (below) they already believe this lie. And I'm gonna show you how that's true. Lets go back to the garden when Eve is being tempted by Satan to eat the fruit, and he basically tells her, “oh you won't really die” Now think about the question that is asked of trinitarians when Jesus died. If this is God the Son and God cannot die, then what's going on here who did die? And you know the usual response is “well you know this Jesus according to the one nature and Jesus according to the other nature”
Jesus according to his human nature died, Jesus according to His divine nature did not die and so on and so on and so on you got to keep that one in mind. When you're thinking about this, we'll come back to that in a second, what do almost all trinitarians believe? They believe that you're an immortal soul or spirit, you're an immortal soul or spirit that cannot die, that's a basic idea among trinitarians you're immortal. When you ask well wait a minute am I mortal or immortal? well it's kind of like well I'm a mortal and I'm this immortal spirit with a mortal body. And at that point you are construed as you know your humanity is construed as this immortal spirit housed in a mortal body and when you die it's like you remain alive because you're immortal. That's what it means to be immortal if you don't die your body dies so you discard this body you leave it behind. So you're already immortal, now the funny thing about this is and you really got to think about this too is, that they kind of forget this when they're reading those passages about how Jesus says your condition changes when you become a Christian.
They talk about this as if this is true of all of humans, all humans are this immortal spirit that cannot die. But Jesus talks about you know your condition changes, and you have immortal life only when you are a Christian. You have this eternal life in you, but the trinitarians are talking about this as if this is true of all humans, keep that in mind as well. So you have this sort of idea in their minds. Now let's go back to Jesus on the cross, and you'll know the standard response from trinitarians when the question is asked, well then who died if God the Son cannot die and be dead who died? And you get this response, well you see Jesus has these two natures, one immortal and one mortal Jesus according to his divine nature. Immortal cannot die, Jesus according to his human nature, mortal can die. And so they say, you see that's what happened there, but then notice what they do next, they want to talk about what happens when you die.
When any human dies, you see when you die there's a separation of the spirit from the body, now notice carefully what they're saying. They're saying that you're just like their Jesus the God the Son. You're partly immortal, you're this immortal spirit, you're immortal and cannot die but you discard this mortal body when you die you separate from it. And so if you really think about it they're saying that you're the same as God the Son, you see angels are divine beings, God's a divine being, God is spirit angels are spirit and we are spirit. That's what they're thinking even though the Bible says dust you are that never says spirit. We are it says dust, you are, they want to think of themselves as divine spirit but they're careful to never say those words but that's what they're thinking. That thinking is betrayed when they're talking about, well you see Jesus had these two natures and this one died and this one didn't and then they go on to explain how any human when dies this is what happens. They're betraying themselves, they're showing that they believe in some way that because spirit is a divine thing, that you're immortal divinity. And that's who you are, see what I'm saying here, and so they're already believing what Paul is talking about at second 2 Thess 2.
They're already making themselves immortal, divinity immortal, divinity that cannot die because that's what they believe God is spirit God is immortal, angels are spirit angels are immortal, I am spirit. I the spirit and the mortal, and when I die I discard this mortal body just like Jesus did on the cross. And you see how this turns out to be 2 Thess 2:4 He sits as divinity in the temple of divinity, showing himself that he is divinity. I am immortal spirit I cannot die, I am an immortal soul at the point of death I remain alive, because that's what immortal means. You say you're an immortal soul, that means a soul that doesn't die. And so you think in your mind if you're a trinitarian that you're this immortal spirit basically you're saying a divine being, I am a divine being. I am a divine spirit like the angels who are spirit, the angels are spirit the angels are divine the angels cannot die, God is spirit, God is immortal God cannot die. I am spirit I am immortal, I cannot die it's the same thing isn't it. Trinitarians are already believing this, and it's clearly betrayed, when you ask who was dead on the cross? If God cannot be die, and then they start to talk about what happens when any human body dies, every human is impossible to die, because every human is an immortal soul and spirit. Think about that lie. It is really good when you study 2 Thess and then you'll realize why this is a powerful delusion and people are deluded into already believing this type of thing. Be careful that you don't see the man of sin as God. God bless you.
Video by Brother Kel - http://www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/trinity.html
This article above was written from a transcript of the video above.
This article above was written from a transcript of the video above.
