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A Son Born from Above

Hello everyone I've made over 200 videos now on the doctrine of the trinity and trying to contrast that with you know what the truth is from the scriptures. I think this video (below)will be the most important video I've made so far because it goes to the heart of why I make these videos. If this doctrine was just a matter of you know mental belief and having some wrong ideas I don't even know if I'd bother with this. But this doctrine this idol is such a heinous lie that it blinds and rob people from their victory in Christ. What I'm going to talk in this video goes to the heart of that. People can't see who they truly are in Christ if they're believers in the doctrine of the trinity they can't truly identify with Jesus Christ. Jesus is God and he is so far beyond them that they can't truly identify with him. There was the beginning of the good news of Jesus Christ and we read about that at Mark 1:1. This is where the of the biggest lie ever told begins, the beginning of the creation of an idol, the triune God the doctrine of the trinity.


I want to read something for you here that is as a historical matter it goes back to you know when this doctrine of the trinity was really developed in the 4th century and for those of you who don't know it, it really started with a fight between Alexander and Arius and they had a theological squabble a fight about who Jesus was in relation to God. And this just exploded into a massive fight in the 4th century between these Athenians and a guy by the name of Athanasius took over when Alexander died against the Aryans. The Aryans actually almost won about 370ad but then emperor Theodosius came to power and he sided with Athanasius and he made a rule in his kingdom that you have to abide by this doctrine of the trinity and you had to abide by the doctrine of Athanasius. So the Aryans were just banned from the Empire essentially. So you know it wasn't a theological decision it wasn't a church decision, the decision was made by a secular emperor that you had to believe this doctrine under pain of punishment and you weren't allowed into church.


Alexander of Alexandria writes to Alexander of Constantinople concerning Arius and his followers and I'm not sure the exact year but I think it's around 318 AD somewhere in there a few years before the Council of Nicaea. He's writing whining and complaining about Arius and the point of my video (below) here is not to promote Arius. I want to show you something else I want to show you what the foundation of this lie really is. Alexander writes concerning Arius and the Aryans people following Arius and he opens his letter like this, to the most reverend and like-minded brother Alexander. Alexander sends greetings in the Lord, Alexander writing to Alexander about Arius and here's kind of a main theme that he says in his letter that he's complaining about. We, therefore, say these wicked men Arius and his followers can also be the sons of God even as He (Yahshua). They say, they can be sons of God just as Jesus. And they say this is wicked and this is kind of the foundation of how trinitarianism developed. This is really really disturbing folks I can't tell you how many times I've discussed things with trinitarians and they'll be talking about how Jesus is the only begotten Son of God.


I will point out to them, are not all true Christians begotten of God, born of God. They usually say, no Christians are adopted by God. The big mistake is that they'll actually deny for the sake of the doctrine of the trinity that they're begotten, born of God. Alexander does that exact same thing in this letter, says we're adopted we're not, you know begotten of God like Jesus was. Well the Bible says differently you know God doesn't go to an adoption agency, or he doesn't just kind of think in his head okay I'll pretend you're my son or daughter. The very way he makes us his sons and daughter is that he begets us anew were born of God just as Jesus was born of God. We read in the scriptures things like this Rom 8:14 Those who were led by the Spirit of God these are the sons of God. Little later he says conformed to the image of his son so that he would be the firstborn among many brothers. He would be the firstborn of God among many brothers born of God. 1 John 3 see how great a love the Father has bestowed upon us that we would be called children of God and such we are. And then he says no one who is born of God practices sin because his seed abides in him. God's Word is like a seed and he cannot sin because he is born of God. 1 John 3:1 born of God that's who true Christians are, they're born of God just as Jesus was.

Born of God, born, begotten exact same thing, if you've been led to believe there's a difference between being begotten of God or born of God by someone, they either don't know what they're talking about or they're lying to you. It's exact same Greek word there's no difference born of God, or begotten of God. John 1:12-13 But as many as received Him, to them he gave the authority to become children of God, even to those who believed in his name, who were born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. Born of God, that's why God is our own Father. Do you remember what happened to Jesus when he said God was his own Father, they wanted to kill him and that's why Jesus later says, if they hated me first they're going to hate you to. But what did these men the Fathers of trinitarianism, what did they say what was the foundational idea that bred this doctrine? We therefore say these wicked men can also be the sons of God even as Jesus. They're denying that they are born of God. Think about that, it's Antichrist. What does it mean to be sent from God? well look at this, John 1:6 there was a man sent from God his name was John. Notice that he was sent from God just as Jesus was sent from God.


It doesn't mean John came from heaven does it. I want to get into the meat of the matter here, about being born of God. I'm going to show you how the Gospel of John shows very clearly that Jesus was born of God when the spirit descended upon him at the Jordan River. Now that doesn't mean Jesus wasn't born of God at Luke 1:35 okay, and this isn't like adoptionism so don't be getting that idea if you want to understand that clearly watch the video below I made yesterday and it'll make way more sense to you. I don't want to delve into all that in this video. John 3 now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus a ruler of the Jews this man came to Jesus by night and said to him, rabbi, we know that you have come from God as a teacher, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him. Notice he says we know that you have come from God, you think Nicodemus thinks that Jesus came from heaven and that's what he's saying. You have to get real with yourself and Jesus is responding to what Nicodemus said to him, we know that you have come from God and how does Jesus respond to this. Jesus answered and said to him truly, truly, I say to you unless one is born from above he cannot see the kingdom of God.


Jesus said if I drive out demons the kingdom of God has come upon you, okay notice that Nicodemus here is talking about the signs Jesus is doing like casting out demons. And if he cast out demons by the Spirit of God you know the kingdom of God has come upon you. Nicodemus is talking about these signs and that's why Jesus is referring to the kingdom of God in the same way and he says that you have come from God. How does Jesus respond what does that mean? then and Jesus is going to explain this to Nicodemus truly, truly, I say to you unless one is born from above he cannot see the kingdom of God. He's talking about himself he's not just giving instructions to you and me he's talking about himself. In John 4 he says a time is coming and it is now, when true believers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The time that is coming, that's you and me but when he says and now is he's talking about himself. He was the only Son begotten of God at that point in time, He was born from above and that's why he responds to Nicodemus in this way. We are from God, born from above, from God. Jesus is born from above then he goes on to say this truly, truly, I say to you unless one is born of water and the spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God, born of water and the spirit.


Notice what John says in his first letter 1 Joh 5:6, who is he, who is he that overcomes the world but he that believes that Jesus is the Son of God. And then he goes on to say this is the one who came through water, born of water the one who came through water and blood Jesus Christ not in the water only but in the water and in the blood. Now what John is doing there is as striking a blow against his archenemy Cervantes, Cervantes said the Christ came down upon Jesus at his water baptism. But he wasn't born to be Christ in fact Christ was somebody else that came down upon the man Jesus and John is refuting that. He was born of water true the one who came through water the Son of God was born from above through water. Now if you want to know what the blood is take a look at John 1:12-13, He came through water and not in the water only but in the water and in the blood. Cervantes didn't believe that the Christ, the Son of God what came in the flesh that he was that flesh named Jesus. He didn't believe that and blood refers to Jesus birth and Bethlehem his human birth that's the idea behind it and you can see that at John 1:12-13 but as many as received him to them he gave the authority become children of God even to those who believe in his name, who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man.


Do you see that it would be like our human birth, it's being contrasted with being born from above, being born of God from above, being born of the Spirit really. Rather than born of blood, being born of water and the spirit as Jesus says at John 3:5. He was born of water, he came through water but not like Cervantes said, only water. He came through water and the blood in other words Luke 1:35 is also true that was the Christ that was born of Mary. But there's more to God's son and as just a baby existing in a manger, there's more than that. Truly, truly, I say to you unless one is born of water and the spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. What happened when John baptized Jesus in water? I saw the Spirit descend out of heaven as a dove and remain on him, John 1:32 born of water and the spirit. He came through water, He came through baptism and that is what the water is about. We read Jesus saying, born of water and the spirit, that's what happened to him at the Jordan, the spirit descended out of heaven. Jesus was born from above the spirit descended from above out of heaven, you must be born from above. That's why John uses that language of John the Baptist, I saw the Spirit descend out of heaven. Truly, truly, I say to you unless one is born from above. The Spirit descended from heaven from above and that's how you were born from above.


And that's what happened to Jesus when he was baptized at the Jordan River. Truly, truly, I say to you unless one is born of water and the spirit. I saw the Spirit descend out of heaven, unless one is born from above and then in verse eight he says the wind blows were it wills, and you hear the sound of it but you do not know where it comes from, and where it is going, so is everyone who is born of the Spirit. You do not know where it comes from and where it is going John 8:14. You do not know where I come from or where I am going, why is that he was born from above? that's why John the Baptist would also say, I didn't recognize him. Well that was his cousin but he did not recognize him as the Son of God because that descends from above, you do not know where I come from or where I am going. The wind blows where it wills and you hear the sound of it but you do not know where it comes from and where it is going, so is everyone who is born of the Spirit. You do not know where I come from or where I am going. No one has ascended into heaven but he who descended from heaven the Son of Man John 3:13. You must be born from above, he who descended from above from heaven and again for God so loved the world that He gave His only born begotten Son John 3:16. Truly, truly, I say to you unless one is born from above, why would you be an only born son, because you're born of God born from above.


And here we see John saying, I did not recognize him, but he who sent me to baptize in water said to me, he upon whom you see the spirit descending and remaining upon him this is the one who is baptizes in the Holy Spirit. I myself have seen and have testified that this is the Son of God only born son, born from above when the Spirit descends upon him from above from heaven, the spirit descending and remaining upon him. The spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, the spirit descended from above. He was born from above God's only born son truly, truly, I say to you unless one is born of water and the spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. The Son of God is the one who came through water and blood (as a baby) Jesus Christ not in the water only but in the water and in the blood 1 Joh 5:6. Born of water at the Jordan when John baptized him in water. A man can receive nothing unless it has been given him out of heaven John 3:27. And that's John the Baptist talking about Jesus, does he think Jesus is God a man can receive nothing. He doesn't think Jesus is God does he? but he says about Jesus that he could receive nothing unless it had been given him out of heaven. I have seen the spirit descending as a dove out of heaven and he remained upon him Joh 1:32. Truly, truly I say to you unless one is born from above born out of heaven he cannot see the kingdom of God.


The Spirit descended out of heaven from above, he who comes from above is above all John 3:31. Truly, truly I say to you unless one is born from above he cannot see the kingdom of God. You see, if you really think about it, John is basically hammering you over the head with it, Jesus was born from above when he was baptized in water at the Jordan. He who comes from above, Jesus just explains what it means to have come from God. Unless one is born from above he cannot see the kingdom of God Joh 3:3. John 3:17 for God did not send the Son into the world. John 17:18 just as you sent me into the world I also have sent them my disciples into the world. Did this son come down out of heaven as a self-conscious being? he was hanging out with the Father in heaven and he shot down out of heaven to earth. Well if that's the case then so did the disciples. Why could Jesus say this about the disciples? because they're born from above just like he was and sent into the world just as You sent me into the world, I have also sent them into the world just as Jesus was sent into the world. His disciples are sent into the world. You are from below, I am from above, you are of this world I am not of this world Joh 8:23. They are not of this world just as I am not of this world Joh 17:14 just as I am not of this world, they are not of this world why? because Christian believers are born from above they have died to this world and they are no longer of this world.


You are from below I am from above, truly, truly I say to you unless one is born from above he cannot see the kingdom of God. Think about that very carefully friends, I and the Father are one Joh 10:30. I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in me through their word that they may all be one; just as You, Father are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that You sent me. The glory which you have given me, I have given to them that they may be one just as We are one; I am in them and You in me, that they may be perfected in unity or in one, so that the world may know that you sent me and love them, just as you love me Joh 17:20-23. I and the Father are one. Jesus prays for his disciples to be one just as he and the Father are one. That they may all be one, I and the Father are one just as You, Father are in me and I in You. That they also may be in us. Why so that the world may believe that you sent me. The Son of God is the one who came through water and blood (as a baby), not in the water only but in the water and in the blood. Truly, truly I say to you unless one is born of water and the spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Jesus is born of water at the Jordan River born of water and the spirit, when the spirit descended upon him. He came through water born of water, Jesus was born from above, true worshipers must worship the Father in spirit and in truth.


A time is coming and now is, the only born son the only begotten son, now is worshiping the Father in in spirit and in truth. But a time was soon coming when he would not be the only begotten son any longer, but the firstborn of many brothers, many begotten children of God. When Jesus walked in Galilee and when he died on the cross, yes at that time he was the only Son born of God but that's no longer true friends, and this is the type of thing that the trinity idol is trying to rob from you. God has wonderful things in store for those who love Him. Do you think God would do things in a half-baked way, it says we're going to be co-heirs with Christ and reign with him and sit down with him on his Father's throne. You have to be a true child of God to do that, to be a partaker of the divine nature as Peter says. Jesus was preconceived the son of God, the Messiah, the Christ was preconceived by the Father before the creation of the world. This human son, and that is God's logos, because what God conceives in his love, that's what logos is, it's a conception of something and the conception of his son was conceived before the world was. And that's why we read that the lamb had been slain from the foundation of the world. God has been finished all his works from the foundation of the world. God gets things done through his word, and he fixes times and seasons by his own authority so when he utters his word, you know things will still come to pass, they come to pass in the time and season God has fixed by His own authority. And when He uttered His word to create all things at the dawn of creation, one of those things with it, was the lamb. The lamb would be slain on a cross in 30 AD but from God's point of view His work was done, because he uttered that word the lamb had been slain.


There was a perfect image of God's son conceived in love and in the heart of God before creation and that's what Jesus received at the Jordan river when the word of God came to him in the spirit when he received that spirit, having been baptized by John in water. From that point forward Jesus had to conform to that image, that logos, that word of God that came to him in the spirit which was an image of him. God's Word is like a seed when we become born again we receive that exact same spirit that Jesus received at the Jordan river so that we will walk exactly as Jesus walked. That's what Paul is talking about when he is talking about us being conformed to the image of God's son, that image was conceived before God said let there be light in Genesis. Jesus became that, he conformed to that image that logos, it became the flesh of Jesus, not just in a birth in Bethlehem but in his whole walk of life until he was dead on a cross and said it is finished. That same spirit of sonship that came to Jesus at the Jordan that image of what God wanted his son Jesus to be, is what we receive when we are born again so that we too are conformed to the image of God's Son Jesus Christ.


The trinity tries to rob that entirely away from you and men try to act as if they're being all pious and holy. They set Jesus apart from you, and tell you, you can never be like him, but the scriptures themselves testify to us that we are commanded to be conformed to his image. We are commanded to walk as he walked Jesus himself said this, if you do not pick up your cross and follow after me you cannot be my disciple. Do you believe him when he says you cannot be my disciple unless you pick up your cross and follow after him. What's he saying, you must walk as I walked, and how did he do it he said the Father abiding in me does the works. The Father empowered him God is powerful He was powerful in Jesus. God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself. He said the Father abiding in me does the works, God is powerful enough to raise you up to walk as Jesus walked, all you have to do is deny yourself and surrender yourself and God does the rest. He will enable you do the works that God has prepared for you to do, the works of God Eph 2:10. When we deny ourselves and we die to this world God is at work in us, it's not us. We see these men who are trying to separate you from Jesus so you that you don't identify with him, they're just betraying themselves and you. They don't know the power of God, and God has not work in them, they're denying that God is powerful enough to raise them up, nothing is impossible for God.


That's how this doctrine of the trinity robs you, the devil is a liar and a thief and he has sent out his servants to tell these lies. Jesus is the firstborn of many brothers the firstborn of many brothers. True believers are begotten of God, born of God. And you know the whole doctrine of the trinity thing is to keep that tradition, men have totally corrupted the scriptures they've twisted it so badly out of contortion or out of shape and contorted. You know that the true meaning of what's being said is not even recognizable anymore. You can't even get a glimpse of the truth from these people. I've been on that side of the fence and man I'm telling you that place is darkness. You might as well walking around in the thickest fog in the blackest darkness in a cave as believe in the doctrine of the trinity, because that's what it does to you. It keeps you blind. Read through John very carefully and consider the things that I showed to you in this video (below). John's pretty much beat me over the head with it. That Jesus was born from above, it's all over John if you just look and you take off those you know trinitarian glasses.


If you're not a trinitarian, and you are able to get rid of that stuff that people put in your head, pray and seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit as Jesus promised. The Spirit will guide you into all truth, not your friendly next-door academic is going to guide you into all truth, that's not what he said right. He said the spirit of Jesus guides us into all truth. Jesus is our Shepherd, Jesus knows the way and he doesn't do it through a book he does it through his spirit. He's the light in the darkness and you have to truly believe truly, truly believe. Don't just give it lip service, believe the spirit He will guide you into all truth. It's not like ordering a hamburger at McDonalds or googling up an answer. Jesus will do it his way but you have to trust him, and if you trust him you will have light shining in the darkness thank you for watching. God bless you.


Please note: This video was made by “Brother Kel” see his youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzGLYkM3mX-Q-fx-MzuThww.